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Date: 7/3/2008 7:29:00 PM ( Admin )
It is such a hard call for most because of religous reasons. Some say the bible prohibits suicide. I personally believe that it depends upon the person and the doctor. I know I would want the option, at least that is what I think at this point in my life. |
Date: 7/3/2008 7:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 64365
I don't believe that suicide is the unforgivable sin...so, yeah...I would like to think I would have a choice to end my suffering if I were suffering tremendously...in a way, my mother exercised her right when she signed a do not resuscitate order on herself...  |
Date: 7/3/2008 7:32:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12103
I'm not sure the religious aspect of it....that's interesting if someone could give me that knowledge  |
Date: 7/3/2008 7:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 16376
I am all for it in a terminally ill patient. If they are going to die for certain, why should they be forced to suffer? It seems unfair that people on death row have a more humane death than many good people who are suffering from incurable diseases.  |
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Date: 7/3/2008 7:34:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12103
Thats a hard one too..sometimes when you get resuscitated sometimes you can come back worse, right? I mean, depending on the situation ofcorse, but limbs gone, brain dammage....etc. I wouldnt want to live that way either. |
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Date: 7/3/2008 7:35:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12103
That's true danielle. I think the terminally ill should wait until they are really really sick though. If they want to die even though they are still living in their house, moving around, going out to the grocery store I dont think THAT would be right. |
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Date: 7/3/2008 7:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 64365
My mother chose to die rather than take chemo and have the surgery that would have made her suffer even more, and become more of a burden to her children. That's the way she thought, and I believe she exercised her right to die... |
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Date: 7/3/2008 7:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 64365
...sorry...I don't believe her not doing anything for herself was an act of suicide though some might think that way. |
Date: 7/3/2008 7:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 63572
I agree with Danielle, why should they be forced to suffer? Most of us don't know when we're going to die but it is inevitable for all of us and some suffer more. I'd rather have a lethal dose of drugs instead of suffering from pain like my grandpa did when his liver and kidneys shut down and his lungs filled with fluid. I want that option, but only if it's really bad.  |
Date: 7/3/2008 8:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 26303
I don't think I could answer that until I've been in the situation where a decision was necessary. Or permitted, be it the case.  |
Date: 7/3/2008 8:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 63219
I'm Prolife-To the Max in terms of abortion, death penalty, euthanasia (bingo! pretty much), and unjust warfare most of the time. So no, I don't believe in assisted suicide and no I don't agree with its legality.  |
Date: 7/3/2008 8:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 42945
I know that is what I would want for myself, after all, I'd be the one suffering the pain, no quality of life and I should be able to decide how and when I die...just my take on it though and yes I believe in it...  |
Date: 7/3/2008 9:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 63201
I'm with Hero on this one. I'm Pro-Life all the way. I believe that God does not allow us to suffer at "the end" and that it's mankind's perception that someone who is dying is always suffering. Pain medications to ease the way a bit, maybe, but I think God should be the ultimate decision maker when it's someone's time to go.  |
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Date: 7/3/2008 9:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 63219
Thanks Fiery Mom. Good call, btw. |
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Date: 7/3/2008 9:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 64637
I am also agreeing with hero on this on because who's right is it to play GOD anywyas? If they are a GOD fearing person, then they actually have something to live for. People are terminally ill are suffering, and I believe that the ones who choose this are weak minded and have already lost the battle that was before them long ago. Just my input. I am all for Pro-life.~~MidnightSun |
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Date: 7/3/2008 9:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 63219
Wow, thanks Midnight Sun. |
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Date: 7/3/2008 9:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 63219
Terri Schiavo is a huge example of this and many pro-euthanasians can make an interesting debate about it, but even though Michael Schiavo wanted her dead and even Terri herself wanted her dead if anything like it went as far as it did, which it did, her own family did not want her dead, let alone the Catholic Church itself. |
Date: 7/3/2008 9:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 64497
Yes I do. Many people would not blink an eye (probably shed some tears) if they had a pet suffering; they would go put them down. In some ways I think medicine has done no good for our society, because we are only prolonging a person's suffering.  |
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Date: 7/3/2008 9:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 63219
Well, Callice. Sometimes we have to try hard to strengthen medical treatments 'til a cure can pop up. |
Date: 7/3/2008 9:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 64514
I think its a good option, if I was like that I would want it done, they can make sure its not painful and it would be just like going to sleep (I hope)  |
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Date: 7/3/2008 9:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 64637
That terry schiavo case was sad...I believe that people who kill themselves go to hell. They let satan win by telling them lies. They don't even try to fight the battle. They take on this "poor me" mentallity and they let this come to them. I believe that the people who are getting to this point have had a life of torment, which leads to eating problems and addictions, and may contribute to terminal illnesses. They have control of themselves and their body, and in most cases, they themselves by the lifestyles they live, bring these problems on themselves. i work with chronic alcoholics and alot of them are suicidal. Just my opinion.~~~MidnightSun
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Date: 7/3/2008 9:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 64514
I think its a good option, if I was like that I would want it done, they can make sure its not painful and it would be just like going to sleep (I hope) |
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Date: 7/3/2008 10:41:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12103
Wow callice, That's an interesting comparison,...putting down a pet cause its in pain and old compared to a terminally ill person. |
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Date: 7/3/2008 10:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 26303
I cannot believe a God who loves all, would allow someone to suffer so badly. Who are we to judge someone if they take their own life? I don't believe in suicide, but I sure feel for the poor person who takes their own life. How low must they've been feeling? As far as people who take their own life's when they are suffering a terminal illness, well I've not gone through that, so I have no right to judge. If you believe in God and Satan, how can you determine if it's in God's plan to have one suffer or in Satan's plan. Maybe it's God's plan to entrust people with the knowledge of how to help people die, not Satan's. Abortion and euthanasia are two different subjects in my book. |
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Date: 7/3/2008 10:48:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12103
There's alot of suffering in this world, some say it brings us closer to god, so we can call out to him for help. And when your crying, down on your knees, thats the perfect position to pray, (is what they say).....But I'm not sure how and where terminally ill suffering patients fit into all of this..... |
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Date: 7/3/2008 10:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12103
Fiery Mom, Perhaps god doenst allow us to suffer at the end..but what about the moments leading up to it? the weeks, days, hours? I havent been in this situation so I cant say, but I can only imagine....... |
Date: 7/3/2008 11:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 62983
I had to get in on this because unless you (general) have seen someone suffer for yourself, I don't think someone can make a true statement of how they would behave when faced with this decision. I for one, like many others, have lost a loved one to cancer. My mothers suffering was terrible, if she had told me that she wanted me to end her life for her or help her end her own life to relieve her suffering, I would have done whatever took to stop her pain. She chose not to be resuscitated, her body was too weak. If they had performed CPR when her heart stopped, the nurse would have crushed her rib cage. So, when my mother stopped breathing, I had to make the final decision for them to bring her back or not. As much as it hurt me to say no, I knew she would no longer be suffering if I let her go. So, that what I did, I let go. Maybe I did help her to die, but I feel like I helped her to stop suffering. So to answer your question... Yes I would do it, without a second thought.  |
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Date: 7/3/2008 11:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 64497
It is not a perfect comparision, I will admit, but at the base of it is the same. I don't think that the relatives should make the decision, unless there is no chance that the person is coming back. I also think that the person who is making the decision should be of sound mind before they can make the decision. Quite honestly, if my mother were about to die and she was in extreme suffering, I would rather her have the dignity of going quietly and surrounded by loved ones than shooting herself, jumping off a tall building, or other various forms of suicide because some people want her to suffer until her body can't take it anymore. |
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Date: 7/3/2008 11:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 64497
Call me a cynic The Ultimate Hero, but we've been researching cures for things for decades, and probably will be for decades to come. Until every single life threatening disease that causes suffering has a cure I will stand by my position. |
Date: 7/3/2008 11:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 14754
yes, i do believe in it...100%, just remember that ok?...LOL  |
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Date: 7/3/2008 11:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 26303
Callice, I agree with your comparison. It always amazes me how people can 'put down' their animal who is obviously suffering, because they feel it's cruel to prolong the pets life. Yet, don't believe in euthanasia. It's like they love their pets more. I'm not saying they do, but it's how I perceive it. Many people share the same reasoning as Callice. This is a topic I have discussed many, many times with friends and family. Until I'm placed in an actual position to make a call, I can not really know my answer. But I would like to be able to make a choice on what is best for the person. |
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Date: 7/3/2008 11:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 26303
Wandering Gurl, I'm sorry your mother suffered so. |
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Date: 7/3/2008 11:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 62983
I also found an article on Bible.com regarding suicide. It was a bit of an eye-opener for me because I always believed something opposite from what they are saying here. Here you go...-> http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=228 |
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Date: 7/3/2008 11:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 62983
Thank you Aussie Girl. This is always a touchy subject with me. I believe with all my heart that if someone can say with a clear mind that they don't want to suffer anymore, we should be able to honor their wishes. Especially those who are terminally ill. |
Date: 7/4/2008 3:40:00 AM
From Authorid: 51876
I am with the Girls and Callice.Now the dignity of your own death is taken away because of some social order policy.I have lost Many family members to cancer,disease and other.To keep someone alive in that state so they can be a medical observation unit is a load.It gets me angry when people start dictating your Human Rights.  |
Date: 7/4/2008 4:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 21266
Never. I don't believe in "pulling the plug" or putting a person "at rest". When a person's life begins or ends is, and always should be, in God's hands.  |
Date: 7/4/2008 8:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 29532
I personally think that if any person wants to die from anything that is making them suffer or will make them suffer has the right to make that decision.  |
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Date: 7/4/2008 8:58:00 AM
From Authorid: 29532
Ok, so in my head after reading all the replies all I can think of is Metallica's One. Would you want to live that way? Could you? Cant' talk, think rationally, no arms, no legs, suffering pain unimaginable after being blown up and can't tell anyone how bad you hurt? The thoughts you think.....Knowing that you will never ever escape that hell your in at that moment. No way. Not me. Think of it, ME NOT TALK! ha. |
Date: 7/4/2008 10:41:00 AM
From Authorid: 13119
I agree with the whole "who gave them the right to play god" with a twist. Who gave pro-lifers the right to play god and make someone live in unbearable pain just because they don't agree with it?  |
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Date: 7/4/2008 10:42:00 AM
From Authorid: 13119
another thing, "we shoot horses don't we?" |
Date: 7/4/2008 11:26:00 AM
From Authorid: 3901
I haven't read the other comments as of yet, but I would like to say that we call it "humane" to put suffering and dying animals to rest but we make it illegal to do the same for our own kind. I personally think it is for selfish reasons of not wanting to lose a person we love sooner than we have to.  |
Date: 7/4/2008 1:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 46527
'Until they are really suffering'....why on EARTH would you want someone to reach that point when there is no need???  |
Date: 7/4/2008 2:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 15677
after all the opinion i have read here let me ask u this, we are a compassionate enough to out our pets down when they are suffering,why do we let the terminally ill suffer on an on?  |
Date: 7/4/2008 4:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 177
Go ahead and let those people die with dignity, assisted by modern medicine...if that is what they choose. Me...I would wish to be hooked up to a morphine IV & kept pain free until the end.  |
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Date: 7/4/2008 5:11:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12103
LSR, When I wrote "until they are really suffering" I didnt mean it in terms where they are veg state, screaming in pain so to speak. I meant it as in when they are ACTUALLY suffering...in pain all the time. Not "suffering" as in, still able to work and play just perhaps depressed because they know the time is going to come, not depressed suffering. |
Date: 7/4/2008 6:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 64154
I haven't searched it enough to have an opinion,but those who do do it,
I don't believe they will go to hell,because hell is a state of mind.  |
Date: 7/4/2008 8:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 51635
We put animals to sleep to stop their pain, why not humans??? I'm all for it ...  |
Date: 7/4/2008 8:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 24003
Ive never really given a thought to whether I agree with it or not, Id say Im for it. I dont think it should be as easy as just asking a friend to help you with it though. If that was the case, we could go kill our neighbor and claim they asked us to. lol I dont think someone should be forced to suffer if they dont want to though.  |
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Date: 7/4/2008 8:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 51635
Magoo hit the nail on the head ... who has the right to tell someone that they MUST live on in pain?! No one is saying that anyone other than the person in pain would make the choice, but let that person choose. I think it falls under "The pursuit of happiness", I don't think one would be very happy if in constant pain ... |
Date: 7/4/2008 8:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 44960
Comment #50!! Just Couldn't Resist!! :) *Spirit*  |
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Date: 7/4/2008 8:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 44960
^^^ "Import'nt" ^^^ :) *Spirit* |
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Date: 7/5/2008 10:50:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12103
Prisssyy :p Import'nt |
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Date: 8/20/2008 10:42:00 AM
From Authorid: 14754
oh ya. |
