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For president..Do we want a leader or a follower?--r1

  Author:  47162  Category:(Debate) Created:(9/29/2004 11:49:00 AM)
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I keep hearing the Bush people ranking on Kerry because he's more of a follower than a leader. They say he governs based on polls. He does what seems popular!

Ya know what! That's what I want! Isn't democracy all about the leaders doing what the people want? Isn't dictatorship all about the leader doing what he wants?

Bush would be great if we lived in a dictatorship! He could get away with doing what he wanted. But this is a democracy! (I think *wink*) In a democracy the leaders do what the people want. Give me the leader who will govern based on what people want.

Give me the pushover, pandering. push poll following, wishy washy, spineless, president! That beats the alternative which is a stubborn, stupid, keep going in the same wrong direction no matter what, president we have now. At least with Kerry we know he's at least listening. Bush just stuffs his ears with cotton and keeps doing the same stupid stuff, all in the name of being firm and resolute.

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Date: 9/29/2004 12:13:00 PM  ( Admin-DNL )   I really don't know how much either of these men care about our problems, but I am getting a much better impression from Kerry then Bush. I agree with you.
Date: 9/29/2004 12:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 25828    we need a leader. taking the public's opinion into consideration is good - but look at the intelligence level of the 'majority'...polls are good, read them, weigh them against the facts, and then do what you feel is right. (if you're the leader)  
Date: 9/29/2004 12:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 42792    I don't care for either of them but I will vote for Bush because I live in a battleground state and Kerry being in office only means more useless laws and more of my money going toward welfare. Liberals make me sick.  
Date: 9/29/2004 12:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 15228    LOL I dunno why, but this just struck me as funny...I can see the campaign signs, Vote for Kerry, he's spineless and can be pushed around! Vote for Bush, he's stupid AND he don't talk no very good (translated to, his grammer is a little confusing)! Actually, we could just bring back Jimmy Carter, he was pretty spineless and wishy-washy and I believe he still qualifies for another 4 years as President. Yes, he could bring back the fireside chats. I miss those days of oil rationing (if you figure in inflation, oil is still cheaper today by 30 dollars a barrel), high inflation, double-diget interest rates, turning down thermostats, giving back the Panama canal that will still have to pay to maintaine today and run it (this time he could give back the Louisina purchase) ..Yes, we need another wishy-washy President!  
Date: 9/29/2004 12:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 62570    Actually, The leader of our country should do what is BEST for our country. The people may want marijuana to be legal! It is BEST if we dont do marijuana because it IS hazardous to our health. Try and think of all the things that may go wrong if we always did what the people wanted. America isn't exactly teeming with mature, responsible people.  
Date: 9/29/2004 1:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 24319    Leader.  
Date: 9/29/2004 2:08:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 47162    kelly hey..carter and bush are actually on the same page.....we have high gas prices now...we have americans being held hostage....both never delt with Iran the way it needed to be delt with..both defeated a weak opponent...Both are numb nuts from the south...  
Date: 9/29/2004 2:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 37101    Obviously a leader. The President is meant to be the head honcho of the United States, the sole executive overseeing all governing powers. Who's he supposed to follow? The answer is: no one because there IS no one to follow. He has to be a leader. -  
Date: 9/29/2004 4:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 62506    Anybody but Bush!!I'd vote for ROnald McDonald if it would get that fear-mongering redneck out of office.  
Date: 9/29/2004 5:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 17081    Kerry says anything that fits in. He plays the race card. He tells you what you want to hear. Do you actually think he cares about me and you? NO  
Date: 9/29/2004 6:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 14226    do you think either care for me or you? nope. It's all just to do whatever you can to get into office. I say just vote for the guy who has the most positive propostions if he were to win. Go for the person who'll do the least harm.  
Date: 9/29/2004 7:15:00 PM  ( Admin-DNL )   I would vote for Ronald McDonald but I am afraid of clowns lol. Although Bush creeps me out too.
Date: 9/29/2004 8:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 34487    UMMMM... A president is SUPPOSED to do what is best for the country, not what is the most popular trend at that time. Good presidents aren't always part of the "in crowd" or extremely well liked but in the end...they're respected for making the tough decisions. I TOTALLY disagree with your outlook on this and feel it's a DANGEROUS concept.  
Date: 9/29/2004 8:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 17081    It's like parenting my kids. They would get ice cream for 4 meals a day if you ask them what they want. We need a strong leader, not a guy just looking to be popular with the people.  
Date: 9/29/2004 10:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    Well lets see, kerry Voted NO on Amendment to prohibit flag burning, guess burning the flag is ok if one doesnt care what the flag stands for, and that is battles won by men and women so that WE could be free. Guess Kerry doesnt like the fact that WAR does happen so we can be free. He Voted NO on deducting Social Security payments on income taxes. Guess he figures hes got his, let them old folks get theres any way they can. HOWEVER he Voted YES on continuing funding for the National Endowment for the Arts. Guess them thar painting people needed the money to paint. He Voted NO on mandatory prison terms for crimes involving firearms, guess he figures that people NEED to use guns during robberys. Yet her vote to slash billions from our defense, and he even voted AGAINST a military pay raise. Guess he is going to defend this country with no bullets cause we wont be able to afford them, and with no military because OH gosh GEE our soldiers that are giving their lives to KEEP US FREE apparently dont need to eat or survive like the rest of us. Kerry Introduces Plan To Cut Numerous Defense Programs: Cut the number of Navy submarines and their crews Reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one Reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force Terminate the Navy’s coastal mine-hunting ship program Force the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces in one year. Thats ok hon. I'll go with the numb nuts from the south, as apparently they have them of STEEL as they are no affraid to get their hands dirty, their reps tarnished, to do what is needed to be done.  
Date: 9/29/2004 10:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    that was meant to say YET KERRY VOTED, not yet her, gosh its late, typos do happen.  
Date: 9/29/2004 10:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 37900    America is not technically a democracy; it is a representative republic, which means we elect representatives that act in our best interests. We accept the risk that they will not always do what we want. For me, I want a leader. Why? Our greatest presidents were men that occasionally swam upstream to do what they thought was right. Leaders have core principles that enable them to make the hard choices and to endure the opposition. Leaders get things done; they are not content with the status quo, but envision greater possibilities and accomplishments. President Bush is a leader. Even his detractors acknowledge this; they are opposed to the direction he is leading this country. I do not see current evidence of leadership in Senator Kerry. Because he is a follower, someone else is leading him, and that someone else will be leading him if he is elected.  
Date: 9/29/2004 10:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    Amen al.  
Date: 9/30/2004 6:23:00 AM  From Authorid: 2030    I'll say this and I mean it, In this case R-1 in your assesment of Kerry you are 100% absolutely right!  
Date: 9/30/2004 8:22:00 AM  From Authorid: 19613    In my opinion a Leader elected by the people should serve the people. Of course one could argue Bush wasn't really elected by the people, but there you go.  
Date: 10/2/2004 5:01:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    i agree, a true american president will go off what the people want  
Date: 10/2/2004 5:03:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    firstborn you ban flag burning and you start having the government become tyrannical. what laws will be next? no slander against the government? no trash talking a president whos trying to be re-elected thus making him win by default cause the opponent cant say anything? how about government issued gag orders on all parties not affiliated with the president  
Date: 10/2/2004 9:00:00 AM  From Authorid: 16671    Jestr, flag burning shows a total disrespect for the men and women that died to be able to RAISE that flag. My opinon and that of others I'm sure.  
Date: 10/2/2004 8:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    ok, but many of the men i know who have served said they'd die to keep that right to burn the flag because it goes with freedom of speech  
Date: 10/7/2004 11:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 37900    Is it possible that people choose to burn the flag because they have not taken the time to learn effective communication by the written and spoken word? Maybe the activity is an adult tantrum.  
Date: 10/25/2004 10:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 62928    BURN THE FLAG!! ha just kidding, but hey this is a "free" Country. (rolling eyes)  
Date: 10/26/2004 7:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 34487    All I'll say to that subject is, that it might be a nice twist if every person burning a flag, caught their pants on fire in the process. ;o)  

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