Date: 5/13/2003 8:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
I could get stuck with a needle and get infected with HIV working in my nuring career and that could ruin my life-- but do I get paid millions to do my job? NO. And neither should they. They get paid all that money when they go pro and they don't even finish their schooling half the time. Idiots running around with a bunch of different sized balls-- they should know there's gonna be accidents!! LOL Just my opinion.....  |
Date: 5/13/2003 8:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
It takes more skill to be in the medical field than any sport-- more physical, mental, and there's another one here-- spiritual. Yes they perform well but so do most others in their field of interest. They should not get paid that much. Tax hikes for the rich would help our economy and maybe some of the state and national deficit. Just my opinion...once again...
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:31:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
Ummm but while there are millions of professional nurses in the world there aren't quite that many professional sportspeople. I mean they get paid that amount of money because they are the best at what they do. You'd get paid that amount if you were the best at what you do!  |
Date: 5/13/2003 8:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 20956
than most doctors do in a year .... forgot to finish my sentance!! whoops   |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
Millions in the medical field-- hardly. i know the caps in the fields and they aren't anywhere near the millions. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:32:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
also does anyone come to see people in the medical field work. No. But they do come to see sportspeople play. And by the way. Have you seen the pays of some of the head doctors and lecturers. That is just as large a payment! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 20956
I read somewhere the other day that David Beckham earns something like $300,000 a week. This is more than most doctors do and doctors save lives. I cant rationalise that personally |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
Thank you Sun Angel...my thoughts exactly |
Date: 5/13/2003 8:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 53836
I don't think anyone needs $16 million a year contracts...their doctors are paid for by insurance, and even at say $200,000, if they ended up with an injury that threatened their career, they would still find a great job as a commentater or actor if they so desired. I think sports in general carries too much weight in the world...and only half the population even cares! <<not fact, just my insights.  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:34:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
Believe me if you are the best doctor in your field you get the big bucks. And if you think that there isn't millions in the medical field worldwide you are sadly mistaken. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
Sorry Kurt but medical is my major and like I said -- the caps don't even come close to a million. It's the medical equipment that get all the money. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 53836
and what about the teachers who stuggle with a double figure salary...or the hs coaches who taught those jocks to play ball? I realize it's a matter of skill, but there are so many other fields with such little compensation, and they work YEAR ROUND... |
Date: 5/13/2003 8:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 42568
That's the type of world we live in these days. Everyone has a choice in how to live their life... so no one should be complaining.  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 20956
But arent all doctors worth this? These people are out everyday saving lives .... surgeons, specialists ... and what about the ambo drivers who rush to the scene of car accidents, heart attacks, home invasions .... these people are first at the scene and very very often SAVE LIVES. You really cannot compare a life to a year contract with Manchester, now can you? |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:40:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
Oooh what a boring world we would have if everyone was working and there was no form of entertainment. You see for these people to do these things they have sacrificed many things to earn the big bucks. They practice sometimes for 12 hours per day on their skills. Play for a couple of hours on the weekend in an exercise which is just as agonising as two days solid worth of work for some of us. There are very few opportunities as commentators and refeerees in these sports as most of these are done by professionslas these days anyway. To entice these people into the world which we want them for we have to pay the big bucks. I enjoy seeing them and think they deserve everything they get. |
Date: 5/13/2003 8:42:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
hey I'm studying to be a teacher and I say that I have chosen to get into this career so I'm grateful for the double figure salary. I had the choice to go pro with tennis but I turned it down. Instead I decided to work. Believe me working and studying is alot easier than trying to get to the top!
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
I think so Sun Angel. It's a sad world we live in when the most important people aren't recognized. Sports are nothing but a pasttime that is over exaggerated, every other profession is every day, all year, like the teachers and doctors who make the real differences in life. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 20956
Dont get my wrong Kurt, i understand that sports stars work their butts off .... a friend of mine plays AFL, and i cant fathom how much training he has to do and how strict his diet is, i know i personally couldnt do it. But at the same time, there needs to be salary caps or something placed on sports stars ... sure they deserve to be earning decent wages but sometimes it is seriously ridiculous ... David Beckham is one name that keeps popping into my head |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
And Kurt-- because of sports channels like ESPN-- it does nothing but contribute in the rise of obesity in these states. People should be out excercising, not watching others do it. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 42568
LOL Kelsey ... but what if they enjoy being that way? |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:49:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
See in Australia they already have that. Look at the Canterbury Bulldogs who got done for breaching it last year. Oh and by the way that figure you quoted of Beckhams was that just his contract or is that including premiership earnings, trophy earnings, royalties from his name being put onto jerseys and advertisements? |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:51:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
Kelsey that's a bit naive and a broad statement to say that stations like espn are causing obesity. the older people who are obese were probably that way years before it came on tv. You will find that the majority of people don't watch the idiot box for sport 12 hours a day! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 42568
Right on Goat Boy. Speak the truth my brother! LOL |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
Bethann-- LOL-- I wouldn't be able to stand myself like that and I don't see how others do. I'd rather enjoy life, cause you never know when it might be over. As it is my boyfriend made me go to a Bucks vs. Pistons game on Valentines Day and the only thing i got out of it was chasing the cotton candy vendor around and finding the Dipin' Dots cart. LMAO |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
Most of the older generations don't even watch TV-- it was barely around when they grew-- they knew how to entertain themselves without an idiot box. Now that is life. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 53836
well, I don't know about Australia, but here in the US, there are many otherwise lovely men who waste the majority of their time off in front of the stupid box guzzling beer and tossing back fattie foods...so Kelsey does have a valid arguement! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 42568
Mmmm... dipin' dots. Now that makes the experience all worth while! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
TY Spacecase... it's so true and if it's not in front of their tv at home-- it's at a bar. lol |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:56:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
Exactly so how was it espn and stations like this that caused obesity. Most people do some form of exercise each day. They just like to watch sport as well. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 20956
that was before endorsements ... thats all the article said. i know they do salary capping in Australia, an AFL team got done for it last season. i am just saying i think it should be a bit more controlled ... but really in the end what can you do? The sporting entertainment industry is big bucks and they know it. thats why clubs will pay more and more money to get the big name stars and THATS when pay packets get out control. Take the Wayne Carey situation ~ he is getting a pretty decent pay packet his FIRST season with the crows (and being out a number of games, mind you) simply for who he is ... 'King Carey'. I am not saying he isnt a good player, i am saying that i think clubs also need to be care when they do such things cause they a have other crucial players that have been around the club for much longer and have prooved themselfs and may not be on as much $$$ |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
Not every other sports freak I know.... |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
That is the only reason I went Bethann-- the chocolate mint Dippin' Dots...lol |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:58:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
But what a man wants to do in his spare time is his private business. My fiancee knows that I like to watch the rugby and the tennis and other sports and she knows I work hard enough during the week that I deserve to do these things. I do things with her as well but I really do like unwinding and watching some sport! |
Date: 5/13/2003 8:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
I'm sorry but I don't agree. I've written a few posts on this subject my self. In a perfect world, which this will never be...people would be paid according to what they contribute. I.E.: Doctors, nurses, surgeons, preists, pastors, firefighters, police officers and all those that actually do something MEANINGFUL for the betterment of society, would make MORE than someone who works for selfish means and is paid unGODLY amounts of $$ for playing games, making music or creating art. That's my opinion and it will never change... and I'm even an artist!  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 8:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
I say that if there is this kind of money to toss around-- it should go to charities and foundations to help find cures and antidotes. or to the community to clean up 'bad' areas. There are much better ways to 'waste' money than on over exaggerated people-- they're no different than anyone else. Just a different profession, they should not get paid more. It's the people who fight in the wars past and present that should be getting this money. They actually put their life on the line. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:00:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
you'll find sunny that Carey will fall out of favour just as quickly as he came back in. He will just be another Koutafididis. He was the man at one stage now he is just another player! |
Date: 5/13/2003 9:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
Some people just take the watching to an extreme is all I'm saying. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 42568
So do computer users... ::nudge, wink:: |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 20956
carey is already falling. i think the crows made a mistake there, he is getting on a bit (in footy player years!) and is getting more injury prone. God ... listen to me!! i sound like i am trying to be freaking bruce makavany!! lol! man, i've been watching WAY too much footy with my bf ... its actually starting to rub off and give me an opinion! lol |
Date: 5/13/2003 9:03:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
We pay these guys when we go see a game. When we watch them on tv and so forth. The only way sports stars will stop getting paid as much is if people start boycotting anything to do with a sportsstar. Do you like that cereal with that also has an atheletes face on the box (I know you don't buy it for that well sorry but that contributes to there pay so you can't have that! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
hee hee hee Bethann ssshhhhh this is more educational though...you meet people and learn things like...this day in History and this day in Rock n Roll.....he heee |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
J/K about the raw meat part...lmao |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:05:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
see when his next contract comes around he won't be offered quite as much money! |
Date: 5/13/2003 9:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
Well it's a no wonder that not just anyone can become a sports star. There isn't exactly enough team sports to go around to make you a sports star. Should they be making that much? Absolutely not. Should they be compensated for what they do, of course, but $15 million to throw a ball around a field is a bit extreme. They get $15 million and all of their expenses are paid for travel and then they make millions in advertising deals with major companies like Pepsi and Coke. That is ridiculous. I don't doubt that keeping in shape and competing with the big boys is a tough job. ONE SEASON and MANY of them have made enough money to last them an entire lifetime. Now tell that to the man that gets up everyday and goes to work busting his rump just like the next guy and can barely keep food on the table. When it comes to famous people, whether it's actors, actresses or sports figures it is a lot to swallow to work just as hard as they do and watch them spend $300,000 on a freaking toilet seat.  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
I don't eat cereal....I eat healthy stuff like fruit and veggies and raw meat.... |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
sorry but raw meat ain't healthy for ya. Trust me I work as a cook! |
Date: 5/13/2003 9:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
J/K i said I was J/K!!! lmao
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:07:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
azairya I really don't care that they earn more than me. I think good on em! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 20956
god, i hope he gets dropped all together .... thats never gonna happen but i dont like the guy. too arrogant |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:08:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
I'm sorry but You can't have vossy! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:09:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
but you get what I mean. You and about a thousand of your friends would have to boycott everything that has reference to a sporting celebrity! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 42568
LOL Kelsey.. Aaron needs his eyes checked |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:10:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
hey it came up before I posted the reply no fair! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:10:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
sorry I meant after! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
I know that and it truly sucks Kurt....lol |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:12:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
only joking I've gotta tutorial soon so I have to go for that! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:12:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 45630
Well I've gotta go and play some tennis I will catch you all later! |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
11 pm here.... |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
Well it's my bedtime here in the states...lol |
Date: 5/13/2003 9:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 28767
There all BLAH! Peace Out..  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 53836
and aren't the men who build spend 50-60 hours a week for months to build these sportstars' homes entitled to a bit more than $8-35 dollars an hour...most of their families are uninsured and they aren't even able to afford dental visits...do you not see the similarities in the physical abilities and strains on these men and women, and the injustice? And maybe some of the construction workers are just those who were star athletes in high school and missed the big break due to injury? This man's shortcomings on the field shouldn't draw such a drastic financial divide! |
Date: 5/13/2003 9:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 600
Yes...  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 600
^^^I just realised that for the first time in USM history, I had a one word answer! lol |
Date: 5/13/2003 10:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 51979
No, they do not get paid too much. They run Americas economy. Without people getting paid that much they would not play, therefore sports would be over and the econom down the drain. They also show up to work everyday, or week, to thousands of screaming fans looking to watch them play, they have to be good. They earn where they are through hard work like anyone else, get over the pay people they deserve it because they worked hard ALL their lives to be their, and I doubt people would pay to see open heart surgery. Not that that is less important, its just that what the people want to see is sports, so they will get paid more.  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 10:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
They are WAY overpaid. They do nothing for society but entertain. I say the guy that's trying to save my life in E.R. or the firefighter risking his life to save my child from a buring room... deserves more credit and more money on any given day! |
Date: 5/13/2003 11:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 44850
if you take in context the money they make for the teams' owners and various people they do endorsements for .... no, they are not over paid. as long as people pay the money to see them, their salaries are justified. unbelievable and unfair, yes. but justified.  |
Date: 5/13/2003 11:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
yes... and i think "celebs" make too much money also!! i think it's a little insane that people are making 10-20 million just for 4-6 weeks of work!! on a movie or 1 million+ an eppisode for some TV shows  |
Date: 5/14/2003 1:38:00 AM
From Authorid: 13886
The doctor who did surgery on my father's herniated disc is reputedly worth $400 million according to him. Of course he got most of it because he invented the parts that went into his back I'm sure, but I'll bet he was a millionaire to begin with.  |
Date: 5/14/2003 3:29:00 AM
From Authorid: 21867
I believe they do. Actually...what I mourn are the days when players played their games for principally honour...pride in the jersey they wore etc. Take Rugby for instance...back in the day, the ultimate aim here in NZ for a Rugby player was to be able to pull on that black jersey, wear that silver fern and stand proud as one of the few...as an All Black. Nowadays its about the money...the drive is for the cash. And when Rugby players are already millionaires...already have multiple cars and multiple houses...then I think sometimes the drive isn't as great...at least for the seasoned veterans. But when the drive was purely to represent ones own country...when the drive was pure pride and achievement rather than financial reward...our All Blacks were formidable. Even as an Australian ya have to admit that. The All Blacks absolutely were a dominant force on the world rugby scene BEFORE professional pay came into the picture. Now we have been reduced to having to once again play in competitions to earn a place in the Rugby World Cups...when previously it was a given NZ would be there because we ALWAYS came up in the top levels during the Cups. There is something sadly lacking now in the game...here in NZ anyway...and that, I believe, is passion and honour. No amount of money can buy that. Peace,  |
Date: 5/14/2003 4:32:00 AM
From Authorid: 47296
I believe they make too much. It has gotten to the point where it has a major effect on colleges. A lot of kids get scholarships to play college sports, and the opportunity to get a good education that can help them down the line. Some of them though, before they complete that education, are lured into major league sports for the money, forgetting all about their education, or deciding to put it on hold. They see all the money they can make, and nothing else matters. If they get injured in their second year, and can't perform, then they are stuck without a job, and an incomplete education. I can think of a lot of jobs that are way underpaid for the work they do. teaching is the main one. If danger is the criteria for high pay, then I should be making a million a year. It is very dangerous doing steel work, especially when you are walking a steel beam high above the ground. Police officers should be worth at $2 million a year. They go out everyday not knowing if today is the day they will meet that drug crazed idiot looking to kill a cop. Soldiers in combat should be worth even more. Personally, I like NASCAR. When those athletes want more money, then they go out and win it. Their pay really is based on their performance.  |
Date: 5/14/2003 6:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 26573
My reason for saying they get paid too much is because the cost gets filtered down to us by having to pay $200 for 4 of us to go to a baseball game, heck that would only pay for 2 of us at a hockey game!!  |
Date: 5/14/2003 8:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 17204
I agree with you. I loveeeee sports (especially basketball, Go kings! Beat Dallas!), so Im cool with their pay.  |
Date: 5/14/2003 8:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
no i think they get paid to much, same with politicians, what about the man who fought for their rights whos living below the poverty line? yeah thats right, my dads a SR NCO been in the army 20 years and only makes 45000 a year, thats not alot last time i checked  |
Date: 5/17/2003 5:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 31154
when entertainers get paid more then your government leader there is an issue  |
Date: 5/18/2003 12:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 42945
you bet you sweet *&*&^%^%$!!!! they get too much money...its a profession like any other Trade isnt it??? and I dont see the others getting paid the exorbitant monies that these guys get....they also know the risks when they go into it...no, sorry Kurt I cant agree with you here...cheers  |
Date: 5/21/2003 8:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 61999
I believe they get too much money. Doctors and their assistants, teachers, police officers, firemen -- these people should get $16 million dollar contracts. The doctors help us to heal, teachers teach these little idiots we have running around here (sorry but it's true), police and firemen risk their lives for us daily. Athletes aren't risking their lives for us. I think that, if Police Officers made more money, they wouldn't be so privy to being corrupt (Louisiana and Chicago have the most corrupt police forces in the country). I think that if we #1 spent more money to educate the teachers and #2 pay them better, we wouldn't have all these horrible deliquents running about. But Americans are like the ancient Romans; all we care about is being entertained. I suppose that's why I sing in a band, lol. ~The DreamGyrl~  |
Date: 6/3/2003 4:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 58427
I agree with Sun Angel and Kelsey. Doctors can save people's lives! Would someone rather be alive (longer) or watch some people run around on a field or court or whatever. I dont know about you but I think that I would rather be alive and I am very thankful for all of those doctors out there. Some of whom go to work in the wee hours of the night and work for a day or two at a time not getting to see their families, but doing an important job. AND what about teachers? Half of the people in the world wouldn't be where they are now if it weren't for teachers! We would all be dumb people sitting around on our lazy bums all day!! What about getting paid for the risk of injury? Doctors risk getting diseases and many other illnesses every day! There is a risk of injury in pretty much everything that you do. People should get paid for drivin a car because there is always a chance that you could get in a car accident. You could be paralyzed or something and that could end your career. What about school sports and the minor leagues? They don't get paid millions of $$ because they could get hurt. Maybe there is a great high school football player out there with a chance to become pro but he gets injured and never gets the chance to? Did he get "paid" for that risk? NO! I'm sorry but I think that teachers, doctors and the other many important people in this world should be getting paid WAY more then they already do.Why do we live in a world where the important people are not recognized for the outstandin work that they do? That is my opinion.Good Post. ~*Peaches*~  |
